Political Signs

Drive through Keystone & you'll see Beseler's every 100 feet. Large & Small.  So both candidates are just as guilty with posting signs everywhere.

A call to the code enforcement office revealed that during the fair Beseler's signs were required to be removed from the roadway. They repositioned them improperly again but by then the fair was over.

 The person who answered the phone said that Taylor had one sign out of compliance, and when told of it he moved it.  They have been inundated with complaints about the Beseler signs.

Most of Beseler's signs are on Clay Electric property like they were last election. Perhaps we should complain to them.

Maybe what really bothers people is that Taylor actually gets permission before putting up a sign.  And all those endorsements look real good on them.

According to both camps more signs are coming.

FastOne

After just talking with the head of code enforcement, I learned that both candidates have been very cooperative about taking care of sign placement issues. Mr. Taylor has been contacted recently about signs on residential property that are too big. A report was made yesterday that a sign of Sheriff Beseler's was on public right of way. When code enforcement checked, it slightly straddled the right of way.

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Before 2004, political signs could not be  posted until 30 days before the election.  Political signs must be removed by 7 days after the election.

I make an important decision about who I will vote for Sheriff based off the information and facts at hand. I don't make an important decision based off how many signs a candidate puts out in the community. I think the safety and security of our community is more important than some signs. Those signs will be long gone shortly. We will be left with our decision for the next 4 years.

With the high crime rate in Jacksonville and their continued push to fund programs, additional law enforcement officers and the Jacksonville Journey's work. If they are able to fund and implement these programs I believe it will be of paramount importance who we elect as Sheriff. Due to the fact that it will cause crime to be pushed into the surrounding communities and we need a leader that can lead an agency and protect the community.

During Lancaster's term we had to contend with missing documents. As in the Ivey's investigation and Judge Watson who said the facts of the missing documents were of more concern than anything they charged Ms. Fitzgerald with in her trials. Then we have Beseler who has his documents but they were being changed. Could you have seen a Judge's reaction if that had went to trial. I am certain he would have made a similar statement about the changed documents.

I hope everyone is paying close attention to the facts and information and will just overlook the signs they will be gone shortly.

I agree with you Angela, Minor details like signs are temporary. Although, they are an annoying blight because they're a little over done, but over done for a reason, they want to invade your subconscious.

With all elected positions coming up we need to look beyond the signs, make the effort to be informed, take the time to find out who the "little guys and gals" that can't afford all the signage and fundraisers. 

I wonder what's done with all those signs once they're taken down, are they saved, recycled? 

he waited until April - May..

 Endorsements are funny things also - I started seeing Taylor bigger than life signs seems like January and already fire fighters, police endorsements all over it.

 Oh well, kind of like the BCC never heard of some before they run for office.  guess Mr. Taylor got tired of the Miami force and Governors protection details and moved back to where I guess he's from to run for Sheriff.

look at Beslers he reused his - just put a sticker over "elect" that says "re-elect"  I thought you were a report for My Clay Sun.  Observation Ms. Marsha

Beseler has also gotten permission ... a friend of mine owns a business and they contacted her and asked her permission to place his sign on her property.

All signs have to be on private property. Signs in the right-of-ways are illegal. So they are suppose to get permission for placing their signs on private or commercial properties. Any signs violations can be reported to code enforcement if it's a big issue with anyone.

I find Mike Taylor's experience and his resume to be impressive. I'm not sure what his resume has to do with signs except he is running a countywide campaign and that requires placement throughout the county.

Beseler's signs are placed countywide as well.

Maybe Mike Taylor's early placement of his signs could mean he is proactive instead of reactive. Which I don't see as a bad trait either.

I think I would be more concerned about his endorsements if they were landowners, developers, and lobbyist instead of law enforcement. After all he is running for Sheriff.

Nope, not a reporter for MCS or anyone else, I am just a participant in the blogs, nothing more.

My nearly 50yr old eyeballs can only see so good driving down the road, and that is why I try to keep them there. I don't recall ever being stopped in front of one long enough to focus on a portion that is covered up.  I think by and large they don't try to make those changes stand out for people to notice....know what I mean?

I like to think of myself as passive on the subject of sign placement protocal.  However, the other side of the brain says that the candidates need to do their best to follow the rules as far as sign ordnances are concerned for if the rules are not followed and enforced the precedent and the hypicrosy on the part of campaigns would just add on to public scrutiny. 

I agree with Angela in that my decision is not based on who has the most signs.  I also don't make my decision based on who has the most impressive resume.  The issues at stake and the candidate closest to you and your stance must be the decision factor at the polls. 

Sign ordinances must be followed by both sides in the sheriff race and the other races occuring, however, the sign ordinances are complicated as hell, so don't base your decison on who has followed the exact rules down to the tee the most frequently, don't even consider such, my opinion only.  While this may somewhat contradict what i said in the annaelles sign controversy blog, consider the amount of signs in a campaign and the people supporting the campaigns placing signs who may be ignorant to such regulations.  I don't think the ordinances should be overlooked, but a voting decsison should not fringe on the exact adherance to the ordinances.  

Slow News Day?

I like the 30-days before the election thing.  Most of us (bloggers/readers) are probably better than average informed re political candidates/campaigns, but I have heard more than one person remark that so-&-so had the most signs and that's who the person planned on voting for.  Could be a comment about the company I keep, too.

I'm sticking with Sheriff Beseler.  So far, so good - to me.  Serious law enforccement professional; proactive; Clay County native; supported by all of the few (2) Clay County law enforcement people I have talked to.  Mr. Taylor is impressive indeed.  Too bad he and Beseler can't team up to benefit Clay County.  I know - not likely.

Well I will not be voting for Beseler this time around. He had a relatively easy walk in to office after a grand jury investigation of Lancaster. I voted for him, but I will not be voting for him this time. I think the single biggest complaint that I hear from Clay County voters is complaints about the Sheriff and his office.

I think we know how the majority of the law enforcement officers feel in the county.

The signs are just a minor annoyance for the time being. The vote is the big thing it lingers for the next 4 years. So people would be wise to make it count.

Baxley we may need to get you some new friends.

There is a big difference in the sign placement for both.  Taylors' signs are being requested faster than they can be printed, and they are being put up in daylight hours.  Beseler's signs are posted at night by those who fear for there jobs (as they should), and he puts them on vacant lots or right of ways without permission.  I also ask you to look at the difference in the signs.  Not just the endorsements, which Taylor obviously has, but sign construction.  They are well done, made of treated wood, and erected straight/square.  Beseler's on the other hand are made of untreated wood (already starting to warp), look as though they have thrown together, and most are put out in the dead of night.  Although I can't blame them for putting them out at night, I wouldn't want to be seen putting out signs for him either.

check the block for "best made sign", treated lumber is that "yellow wood" or toxic green treated lumber?  I saw the crew putting out more signs on 220 Saturday they shading themselves off a dirt road near the intersection of 220 and Baxley.  They did a fine job digging in the new sod in front of the new business infront of the Crazy Horse on Blanding.  Will he replace the sod after he pulls the sign in 5 months?

Should of used "Yellow Wood" then he'd of stood a better chance with me.

I cannot believe that sign construction has ANYTHING to do with how someone should vote..Give me a break...If that is the case then let us look at sign construction....treated wood vs. non treated wood...these signs are TEMPORARY right?? how long do they need to last?? I am happy to know that the Sherrif is spending money wisely and NOT purchasing treated lumber for a temporary sign....

Look at the issues...signs DO NOT VOTE....

Joseph E. Riley

Joe and Clayvoter,

Sheriff Beseler is using signs that were built in 2004, which have been in storeage. He simply placed a re-elect sticker on the signs. Very efficient. Is proof that he is frugal with his $$$$. Too bad he didn't do the same with the S.O. budget.

 I agree that the appearence of signs does not indicate the competence of the person running for office. But it does show the effort put forth by those who volunteer to build the signs (they care.)

 About the sod in front of the Crazyhorse, and any other sod, will be replaced when the signs are removed. This is because the sign erectors appreciate the opportunity to place the signs.

WE WENT TO THE DEBATE AT RIDGEVEIW HS WER'E WE LISTENED TO MIKE TAYLOR SAY HE WAS ALL ABOUT KEEPING THE RACE FOR THE TOP COP IN CLAY ON THE UP AND UP, ONLY TO TURN AROUND AND TAKE UN-WARRANTED JABSAT SHERRIFF BESELER THE SHERRIFF CAN STAND HIS OWN BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT THE VOTERS OF CLAY COUNTY ARE A BIT SHARPER THEN THAT ITS EASY TO SAY WHAT YOU LIKE WITH AN OPEN MIKE UNTIL YOU HAVE TO DEBATE IT . IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF BESELER SIGNS KNOCKED DOWN. THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T HELP PEOPLE GET ELECTED IT JUST SHOWS CHARACTER AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING TO CLEAN UP IN CLAY COUNTY.

Marsha sorry for the confusion on the My Clay Sun part.  Confused you with some one else.  My 50 year old eyes have a hard time at times also.