Pet Owners and Bashers of Animal Control

Thanks for sharing that letter TH. I believe that about says it all. If owners would step up and take the proper responsibility for there animals, it would be a much better world. Unfortuntly, people are people and will continue to abuse animals, dump unwanted pets and complain that it is someone else's problem to deal with. They will holler that they are a tax paying citizen and the county should deal with it. They will continue to be part of the problem and not the solution. They will bad mouth Animal Control, but not make an attempt to help.

I, as I stated before have the utmost respect for the folks at CCAC. Keep up the good work.

SouthernTip aka JBOD

TH;

I too have issues with irresponsible owners. The fines are not heavy enough. Just taking the animals is not enough. It should hurt their wallets a lot more than it does.

Let's specify something here. I don't have an issue with the 'Animal Control Officers'. I wouldn't want the job. But nowhere in this letter do I see anything about the Animal Control Officer's manager.

Putting more Band-Aids on an arterial bleeder is not going to save the patient.

Stop by the Library and look over the budget for CCAC. Then tell me if you think we are getting a good return on investment.

Mike Heemer

Mike, I'm an advocate of a more effective fine schedule for owners of animals picked up by CCAC, but don't want to just raise fines across the board.  I do have an alternative suggestion, though.

First off, accidents happen.  Plus, some animals are downright Houdiniesque and may defeat the security efforts of even the most responsible of pet owners.  So I prefer to not lump all the owners of animals that end up at CCAC into the same group.

I don't want to punish the single mom whose family security slipped out a gate some kid accidentally left open.  But the single mom who just turns her dog lose everyday and has wasted CCAC's time on a repeated basis, well, she needs a bigger financial slap on the wrist because she's not getting the message without it.

I'd prefer CCAC keep fines for first offenders reasonable enough that they don't punish simple mistakes, but repeat offenders should face a schedule of escalating financial punishment.

Michael S. Mann

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Mike;

I'd agree with you pretty much 100%. I guess I should be a little more specific some times. I got accused of being too verbose so I'm trying to be a little more succinct.

I was talking about the cases of abuse and cruelty where the animal had to be taken from the owners.

As you implied, mistakes are one thing. Blatant disregard for the laws and abuse are another thing. One size does not fit all. The more egregious the offense the steeper the fine should be.

Mike Heemer

What happen to the Dog tag tax and what about education, The CCAC website says they do it but WHERE...And programs Adoption and Rescue and Rehab.no effert in done at CCAC. I'm not talking about the Officers, but what about the MANAMENT  Staff , not the kennel staff,they work there buts off

No work....just a paycheck Where is the creative thinking with a Director who has been there so long.

And now there is a Rescue, Adoption, Coordinator,well there was one, under till he wanted to do his job and The Director Fired that Person.

They should fire the right person..

 Don.

If he was fired it was probably because of your direct impact "NOT". LMAO

Just a few posts back you were bashing this guy (rescue Corr.) for not doing his job. I don't think you can make up your mind. Did you want him fired or not???

What this does prove is your intention to turn and spin all your hate no matter what way the wind blows. And I am sure your wind blows alot and hard.

I was at CCAC today and guess what? They had several rescue groups there and they had over 30 animals rescued out. So your wrong I saw this first hand. 

So you don't know what your talking about.

I know you think you have it figured out but you don't. You never even go down there so I don't know why you think your "In the Know" on the happenings. All you do is spin Crap.

Did you go down and investigate the horse auction today????? Please give us your report. Did CCAC do what you claimed they would??  Or were you WRONG????

Maybe you lost your Little Orphan Annie Decoder Wheel and couldn't get directions.

No I did not write it. If I did I would have no problem taking credit for it.

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Maybe the Rescue Coodinator was trying to do his job,but was set back so much due to the fact he hAd to do the Directoe's job the stuff she don't want to do or don;t know how too.....And that way it Gives her more time to Blog on the MYCLAYSUM BLOGS.

And how did the Horse Auction go (which was done totally unfair and wrong) did you and Cookie get those two house for 25.00

Another casualty of the department with the highest turnover rate in the County.

I wonder who interviews these people for these jobs?

The turn over rate at CCAC is very easy to understand.

All that apply for these jobs do so out of love of animals. But they soon find out how difficult it is to do these jobs. They soon find out it's not as glamorous or the notion not as romantic as they first thought.

For emaple Mr. Don and others claim they love animals and it's all about the animals. You don't see him or these people applying for a job there, or volunteer for the day to shovel 200 to 300 lbs of fececs in extreme heat. They can't hack it thats why.

It's a very difficult job that wears down your body, mind, and emotions. This is why I have the utmost respect for those that have been there through it all. They are strong and dedicate their lives for these animals. They not only talk the talk they walk the walk.

And for Don

who states

 "Maybe the Rescue Coodinator was trying to do his job,but was set back so much due to the fact he hAd to do the Directoe's job the stuff she don't want to do or don;t know how too.."

Each time you make remarks like this you show the world what your personal vindictive  agenda is.  No one does the directors job but the director.

Why don't you post and tell everyone why you were kicked out of animal control? And why don't you explain to everyone how you think placing your hand on the rear end of a female is the equivalence of a hand shake?

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Seem thats what they do best at Animal Control.Uncover the Dirty and you have to call Names.

If someone is threaten with there jobs, they will say anything to keep that job.

Theres others and its ALL going to come out in the Wash.

 There you go putting more Lipstick on that Pig,now put some eyes lashes on now.

Don, we are still waiting to you to explain why you hate CCAC so much. Please inform us as to why. There has to be something that happened to you to cause you to be so vindictive and hateful towards the management of Animal Control. SouthernTip AKA JBOD

The only thing comming out  or wearing lipstick Don is you. Not that thats a bad thing LMAO

You have been exposed for excactly what you are.

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As a public records request and explained to me the following information is from Henando County (one of the county's I've posted before) the newer with less than 2 years are new hires for expansion of the program. Their population in getting close to 170K and Clay County's is listed as almost 180K.

As listed Job title, years of service, hourly pay:

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 21.01, $20.20

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 11.24, $17.37

KENNEL OFFICER, 25.91, $17.32

SENIOR KENNEL OFFICER, 18.92, $16.62

KENNEL WORKER, 4.13, $9.77

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 2.21, $16.43

CUSTOMER SVC TECH, 3.82, $11.32

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 1.68, $16.43

ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER, 16.38, $23.53

ADMIN ASST I / ANIMAL SVC, 3.36, $15.65

CUSTOMER SVC TECH, 3.59, $11.32

KENNEL WORKER, 5.39, $10.76

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 1.44, $15.65

CUSTOMER SVC TECH II, 4.22, $12.51

CUSTOMER SVC TECH, 1.68, $11.32

ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, 6.16, $17.55

KENNEL OFFICER, 14.22, $17.87

I think they need to get out their new excuses playbook. The cost to the taxpayers of hiring this people in interview time, background and other checks. Setting them up in the system for payroll. Only to have them leave shortly afterwards. Who is interviewing these people? Maybe we should have an exit interview become part of the employee's file.

Maybe it's Mike Price's statement concerning Ms. Goon: "More importantly, she did greater damage to her own credibility as a manager, and the public’s confidence as well, through what amounts to immaturity and lack of judgment."

Folks

Mr. Don99977 is Mr. Don R.

He was a rescuer that use to go to CCAC and was welcome at one time.

Until one day he went to CCAC and did some things that offended some of the female staff scared them and he was asked to leave. When he got irrate for being asked to leave some of the staff got even more scared and even called the police.

This is our sweet Don the animal lover

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Angela

That was a waste of time it shows nothing keep up with your flawed Anaylsis though it's a hoot.

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TH, Thanks for the info, but I would love to hear Don's side of the story. Unfortunately I don't believe he will ever give it. All he does is spew negative comments and accusations.

SouthernTip AKA JBOD

So truth this horrible incident that happened. Were any charges filed by the State Attorney's Office? Has he been served with a no trespress order? If he has not been served with an order who get's to violate his rights by stating a cause that prevents him from going to a government place that he pays taxdollars to maintain? Or is this just hearsay and no proof exist.

After all had he not exposed county employees taking home county property which is not legal. Of course nothing happened because the director for 19 years did not have a policy in place. I wonder how long they have been out there taking property home without the taxpayers knowledge!

I wonder who is being vindictive in this situation I think it would illegal to deny him the right to visit a government place without a legitimate cause for his removal.

JBOD

Thanks

I am happy to see that most are not buying any of this mess.

Just the same handfull of haters with their own LITTLE minded motives.

Not one of these people have the guts to go down to CCAC. Just spew crap and enuendo, and flawed analysis.

CCAC must have ticked these folks off real good, and it shows.

I say too bad get over it.

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I thought you stated they could not keep employees because after they are hired and see the requirements of the job are forced to leave.

However, in Hernando County they have several employees with extended years of service. Some with almost 26 years.

I guess according to you this rare phenomenon of high employee turn over just exist in Clay County.

Yes Angels very interesting

Why don't you do what I do and go down there yourself and talk to the folks???

Because your either too damn lazy or it does'nt fit in with your scheme of things.

You want those answers go down and find out if you have the guts. My guess is you don't.

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No thanks. I don't want to be anywhere near that place. Never have and never will until some changes are made. We have some very excellent rescue groups in the county. I always suggest people visit those for a pet.

Angela states

"I thought you stated they could not keep employees because after they are hired and see the requirements of the job are forced to leave."

I did'nt state any such thing read again Dear. those are your words not mine. Stop spinning. My point was they take the job with the best intentions being animal lovers and once they are there and see how taxing the job is they move on.

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Angela writes

 "No thanks. I don't want to be anywhere near that place. Never have and never will until some changes are made. We have some very excellent rescue groups in the county. I always suggest people visit those for a pet."

Oh and I bet that saves many lives at CCAC

 Then maybe you should shut your mouth!!!! Because your flawed.

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I wonder who interviews these people? Do they have a lack of maturity and lack of judgment or just a poor judge of character?

Truth I hope you don't really mean the above statement.

Keep wondering and keep making hatefull remarks.

Grow a spine and go find out

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Why not meet at high noon, 20 paces and fire.

Neither one of you will ever convince the other that either of you has an intelligent thought.

Don sits back and chums the water and you two sharks go into a feeding frenzy. It isn't worth it.

If I thought you were both men I'd tell you to stop by the rest room with the ruler.

The bell has sounded on this round. Go to a nutral corner and take a breather.

Mike Heemer

I was hoping lily would comment on the fair tax so I could see a true unraveling.

Angela, thank you. That one line had me laughing out loud. I suppose next I will have to start increasing my vocabulary since Truthless Whalebottom just discovered the word "speculum" and has now used it three times in three different posts to familiarize herself with it. I suppose having previously been inspected by a physician wielding a trowel, this must have been a real "eye opener" so to speak. :>)

I also wonder about why she is not only obsessed with my nether regions but also of the compulsion surrounding animal feces removal. I doubt, except for the rhetorical shovelling of it, she has every done it for real. What a lying hypocrite.

Mike, I really do not believe Don is capable of such mental machinations of chumming the waters. I think it's just a happy collision of two uneducated morons baring their collective fangs. The more I read from Truthless, the less I believe she ever stepped into a college anywhere. I doubt she would even be a successful med school cadaver.

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Lily's Lore "I don't ever want to be rescued And I don't ever want to be saved I got a feelin' that I'm gonna be alive forever Dancin' on the edge of a grave..." Jim Steinman

Oh look at this

You was hoping Lily would come on and poof there she is.

How special is that. You must have telephoned her right away crying how you have no spine and BAM here she is to rescue you.

Everyone that reads these blogs know what you both are. There is no place to hide.

You two could not unravel me on your best days. I don't sweat the small Shit dung.

 Big wet sloppy kiss to you both. Luv ya both

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Truth, 

What is your connection to CCAC that helps you take these completely loyal stances where they are involved?  Do you feel comfortable answering that?

I have already answered this on another post in in detail.

But I will give you the short version as to not to bore anyone.

I am a long time doneer at CCAC and have had many private and candid conversations with the folks there. I think they do a great job and I have the utmost of respect for them all.

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Your passion and feelings are really into CCAC you take this PERSONALLY as we were talking about you. One would think you where Connie Goon (COOKIE).

You know and defend to much of CCAC.....But when your jobs at steak to have too.

Okay, all you nice folks of Clay County.  I have been following this story from the beginning.  Let's all not forget how and why this got started before we begin insulting innocent people, who have been lied about and insulted quite enough.

A volunteer rescuer just trying to save animals uncovered quite a bit of dirt at CCAC, but not just the rescuer, others too, there are public records I have obtained.  You can not sell or acquire County Property for your own personal use or gain.  County Employees employed and paid with our tax dollars need to do their job, sleeping on the job in my mind is not doing your job, not caring enough to take proper care of our animals is not doing your job. Blogging on County time is not doing your job. There are many other problems out there.  For some reason we can not get the Commissioners to get off their duffs and do something about it.  And it appears that someone at CCAC has connections to My Clay Sun to quiet some of this blogging when it gets heated. 

A rescuer just trying to help was told he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and the employees at CCAC went about trying to discredit him.  Folks that what it is all about, it has happened before at lease four other times and those people are talking about the false charges against them.  These CCAC employees remain in control of their phoney baloney jobs by flasely accusing innconects who come forward to help the animals, but uncover wrong doings at CCAC, and their are alot of them.

I am sure if it happened to any of you, say to went to CCAC to help out as a volenteer, you uncovered something awful, reported it, and soon after were falsely accused say of touching someone, and believe me those employees were swear to anything to keep and protect their livlihood, wouln't you, after all it has worked for them for years.  They get the extra benefits and protect one another.

By the way I think Truth Hurts is a CCAC employee.

That's quite a bit of random info. Please elaborate for me.  

You stated 

volunteer rescuer just trying to save animals uncovered quite a bit of dirt at CCAC

What was this dirt??

 sleeping on the job in my mind is not doing your job

How about some info on this. 

has happened before at lease four other times

 You state four times?? To whom??

Wow newcomer, you sound like you have too have had a bad experience with CCAC. Lots of accusation and name calling!!! Please fill us in on your reason for hating Animal Control!!!

SouthernTip AKA JBOD

I don't care who any of you think I am LMAO.

I think you nuts are delusional, turning everything into a sinister plot.

Now you even go as far as to say My Clay Sun is dictated to by CCAC, of course this is one more prime example of these lunitic delusional minds.

You nuts need a hobby LMAO

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When was the last time you donated to Animal Control? Do you do this every now and then or on a regular basis?

Angela

Why do you even care as to when and how often I go to CCAC to donate???

Does it really matter??? Do you really care????

Or are you simply trying to correlate dates and times to try to turn this into something else?? Are you connecting dots again Dear?? 

You won't even go down and talk to these folks. You have no intention of being fair and balanced to these people. You just want to hurt them.

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I would suggest you search the blogs above. There has been several blogs about animals being taken home by employees. Under Fl Laws animals are considered to be property. So county employees were taking home county property. How could you identify how many times employees have taken taxpayers property. Are for how long this has been a standard practice at CCAC. 

I have blogged on here public records where Ms. Goon went to the State Attorney's Office and filed charges against a reporter. It just happened to be the same time the reporter wrote a story about CCAC putting down a dog that belong to someone who was paid to get their animal out.

Both times these accusation did not end without anyone being charged. It does have a certain smell.

Truth, 

Thank you for responding, I don't remember seeing that information.

Angela,

Angela, where would a record be if a person was charged as Truth has stated that Spot/Don was? I agree that if he were not charged with anything then I don’t know how they stop him from going to Animal Control.    

If he did what Truth says he did and he was not charged nor was a restraining order issued, at the very least he should apologize and state that it will never happen again.  A hit on the behind is not the same as shaking someone’s hand.  Even shaking hands with a female is not proper unless she extends her hand first. That may be old school but I have always heard that.  Today, a woman may be offended if you don’t offer your hand where you just did for a gentlemen colleague.  Sure as the sun will come up tomorrow though, butt patting or grabbing is not good etiquette anywhere that I know of.  Even among football players I can’t explain it unless it is because it is the only area that isn’t padded where someone could give a pat of “way to go.”

That’s a topic for another separate blog though.  

Evidently you don't donate if you can't answer a simple question. Just allowing the readers of the blogs to make up their own minds. Above you seemed to be so proud of your donation and goodwill. Why would sharing that infomation be so hard for you to do?

Are these people at animal control your friends?

I have an idea, if you will indulge me.  First, I need to know if there is ever an open house offered at Animal Control where people can visit as Truth suggested?   

If don99977 was charged with a crime (it is a battery to touch someone without their consent) then the court documents (clerk's website) would show those charges. Today no record has been provided only accusations. I have asked if don99977 was issued a trespassing order. To date that question has not been answered.

don99977 has responded that he has never even gotten a speeding ticket. So I hardly think truth can produce any documents that shows he was charged with any crime.

Ok, I guess you answer for Newcomer huh??  I still want to know why this abuse against CCAC. What one thing happened to you or Newcomer or Don that causes you guys to moan and moan and point fingers. After reading as many blogs on this is seems the Director MS Goon is your ultimate target. She must have done something bad to one of you... I have asked this before, but as expected, I never get a real answer..

SouthernTip AKA JBOD

LMAO

Thats it Angela you broke the case wide open.

See this is what I mean all you want to do is turn it around and make something out of nothing.  Because I won't feed your data base of sinical twistings I don't donate.

Again just like the accusations that I must be a CCAC staff member. I don't care what you or anyone else thinks.

LMAO 

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I was just providing information I'm certain newcomer can provide information as well. 

I have no personal problems with Ms. Goon. I have never met her, spoken to her, or had any dealings with her. I do have a problem with the lack of professionalism at animal control. I don't know how you feel about taking county property but I call that stealing. I don't like the stealing of my stuff.

This has the smell of public works and we know what happened to that director. Stuff going out the back door that will never be accounted for, sloppy record keeping, personal attacks when questions are asked.

I've talked with people that could tell you some nightmares coming out of that department. So evidently she's not getting the job done. So the person you hold responsible is not the guy cleaning the cages. But the director who get pays to run that part of the government. If she can't do it get someone who can.

Truth are you friend with the people at CCAC?

 Thanks for the reply. My question about the stolen property from the county is was anyone charged or held accountable for this or was this just accusations.  Again, I have had nothing but good experiences with Animal Control.  Great thing about this blog is we can state both sides. If there was that much corruption going on you would think the County Manager or someone would be investigating all these so called abuses of power..

SouthernTip AKA JBOD

Truth asks us often to go visit Animal Control.  If that is allowed and you can take a tour, I would suggest that we choose someone that blogs here on a regular basis that we would have enough respect for that we would listen to them.  Someone who did not want to risk losing their anonymity would not want to go.  I would suggest Marsha except for two reasons; she has already spoken to Connie Goon before and she has to be busy helping Fred with the campaign. 

I nominate Jimmaxie to go and bring back an honest report.  I chose her not to insult or exclude anyone else but because she appears to be fair minded, willing to volunteer and is very civic minded with a get it done attitude.  Besides that, I like her sense of humor.  I think she would come back with a fair, honest and balanced opinion for us all to read.  She doesn’t seem to have been in on many of the CCAC blogs so she may not have any reason not be unbiased in this research assignment.  I just don’t know if she should make an appointment first or go unannounced. 

How about it?

It started with 52 animals yes that's right I said 52 animals that were confiscated in an animal abuse case. The county manager is involved and they are doing audits of their records. This resulted in the Sheriff Beseler stopping the program he had put in place to have a central officer deal with these cases. Could you even imagine we have a rural county and they had no policy for livestock. So they didn't do anything about it.

As a women I admire would say if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Then it must be a duck. But now I think we have a policy in place for a duck.

As much as you talk defent and make excuses, CCAC is a MISMANAGED DEPARTMENT OF CLAY CO. Its been proven by BY ALL THE PROBLEMS and MISTAKES MADE this was expressed by County AUDITOR Mike Price,  and the Clay Co Manager doesn't want to do anything about it......WHY...... They need a Leader at CCAC  that can make a differance.....

 Thruthhurts...tell your boss your yourself there's a opening at Jacksonville Animal and Care..see if they want you there.....

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I accused Angela of having personal contact with Mr. Don.

I re-read the post and read it incorrectly.

My apology to Ms. Angela

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